So, in high school and college when I was flirting with the Evangelical and fundie wing of the Protestant Christian religion, I was told by many many many fellow Christians - including peers, preachers, parents and professors - that Catholics were not "real Christians." They told me that Catholics were deceived, unsaved people worshiping a false god in an evil church. Some of my Christian-music heros at the time went so far as to publish lengthy anti-Catholic essays (see, e.g., Keith Green's writings that (as of 2/22/12) can be found at http://www.fmh-child.org/KeithGreen.html). And Mormons, I was told, are even worse -- a laughable cult.
So who do the Evangelical Christians support now for President? The Republican Catholic, or the Republican Mormon? They might want to consider the Democrat from the United Church of Christ!
Pretty funny stuff.
Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Sunday, February 12, 2012
Owners of Bobby and Steve's Auto World oppose Gay Marriage
Here are the people behind the "Minnesota Faith and Freedom Coalition", which is one of the activist organizations behind the anti-gay marriage amendment. See http://www.mnffcoalition.com/?page_id=11. Guess I won't be sending anymore business to Bobby and Steve's Auto World. That's ok, I stopped using them a few years ago anyway when they did an oil change and transmission flush and I ended up with over a thousand dollars in damages to my car.
MN Faith & Freedom Coalition (501C4)
Board of
Directors
Carol
Schulstad
Carol.mnffcoalition@gmail.com
President/Board of Directors
Tom Emmer
Tom.mnffcoalition@gmail.com
State Chairman
Bobby Williams
bobby@bobbyandstevesautoworld.com
Melissa Williams
Melissa@bobbyandstevesautoworld.com
Field Communications Director
Mary Ramirez
Maryr.mnffcoalition@gmail.com
MN Faith & Freedom Project (501C3)
Brad Brandon
Brad.mnffcoalition@gmail.com
President/Board of
Directors
Dorothy Penate
Dorothy.mnffcoalition@gmail.com
State
Chairwoman
Steve Williams
stevew@bobbyandstevesautoworld.com
Advisory Board
Minnesota Senator Warren Limmer
Teresa Collette, J.D.
Minnesota Faith & Freedom Coalition
P.O. Box 44593
Eden
Prairie, MN 55344
Saturday, February 11, 2012
This way to the door . . .
I was born and raised Catholic. I was an altar boy.
I worked for a Catholic organization that helps the homeless. I
know the Catholic Church has had issues over the years, but I had always
remained fond of and connected with the Church. And now I'm ashamed of the Catholic Church. Catholic
Archbishop John Nienstedt is relentlessly pushing a proposed amendment to the
Minnesota state Constitution that would define marriage as a union only between
a man and woman. He and the church are spending (i.e. wasting) a lot of
money and devoting a lot of resources to this issue, and he has taken actions
such as producing and sending DVDs out to all Catholics advocating for his
position, sending people into schools to advocate for the same, and warning
Catholic clergy across Minnesota that there should be no "open
dissension" on this issue. Here are some selected comments submitted
online or in writing to the StarTribune regarding some of these efforts.
I'm not saying that I couldn't have said it better, but I'm too lazy to
try. But I will say this -- the Catholic Church should be free to decide
who is allowed to get married in the Catholic Church, but should have no say over,
and no concern regarding, the government's definition of marriage. The Church's sacraments should stand on their own under Church law, and the Church should not concern itself with imposing its rules for its sacraments on society at large.
"As a catholic I'm pretty upset that THIS is what
Nienstedt is putting his effort into. Religious institutions should teach
tolerance and love...not political propaganda and how to alienate others. As a
married man if 2 people of the same sex want to get married it has NO effect on
my marriage whatsoever. This kind of stuff makes me wonder why I'm still
catholic."
""The stakes could not be higher". Really,
Mr. Nieinstedt, really?? This is the highest calling for the church!? As a
catholic you offend me. And you offend every sense of being a christian that I
learned in parochial schools. Some men get ordained and think they've become
god. When their day is done they're still just ordinary men."
"We have been married Catholics for 45 years, but the
desire of gays and lesbians to marry does not threaten us. What threatens
us is the archbishop's alliance with a political movement bent on amending the
state Constitution to restrict the right of other Minnesotans to seek the same
legal recognition we have. We are also outraged at the archbishop's
dictator-like orders to silence dissent among priests and force parishes to
organize committees to promote a divisive political agenda. There is
little enthusiasm for turning parishes into precinct caucuses -- and even less
enthusiasm for turning Roman Catholics into Roman soldiers."
"I am a Catholic and I've been married for 27 years.
I want to assure Archbishop Nienstedt that I intend to vote against this
discriminatory amendment in November. I will not be silenced by you or by
anyone else. Whether or not gays get married will not affect my marriage at
all. No one is requiring that the Church perform sacramental marriage
ceremonies for same-sex couples. If they get married it will be in civil
ceremonies. You are seriously out of line with you attempts to silence the
priests of the Archdiocese on this political issue. You are in serious error on
this political issue. I encourage you to step back, to show some compassion to
homosexual people and their desire to live in marriage like the rest of the
community, and to see that your campaign is not only divisive, but in the
course of human history will be viewed in the same way that we now look upon
laws banning inter-racial marriage. Please stop this before you tear this
diocese asunder."
"Homophobia is dying, and it is angry that it is
dying. But here is a fact: Your grandchildren and great-grandchildren will be
much more tolerant than you, and will look upon a "marriage
amendment" as a relic of a more ignorant past."
"As a lifelong catholic I am appalled by the
archbishop in more ways than one. I have loved being a catholic following
catholic traditions. This is the first time in my life I have considered
looking into other religions. The archbishop is going to be left with very few
followers because of his stances and political views."
"You are intentionally confusing the church's
sacrament of marriage with the state's civil partnership of marriage. Monitor
your sacrament."
"Really?? This coming from the church that brought us
the crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, unmarried popes with children,
indulgences, ignored the Nazis and the holocaust and pedophile priests?!?!?
They threaten to withhold communion from pro-choice politicians but ignore
those that support the death penalty (something the church is supposed to be
against). The catholic church is nothing more than the Sunday arm of the
Republican National Committee."
"I am a lifelong Catholic (66+ years) with 4 straight
children but I am appalled by our Archbishop. Years ago when some Catholic
churches stepped forward to protest war they were told to back off and leave
politics alone. Why the change? Is this our most pressing social problem? I
think not. To those Catholics who embrace the strict adherence to antiquated
dogma - how many of you are practicing birth control? If so...you are NOT
following Catholic teaching. Do you have a right to cast aspersions on gay
Catholics?"
"That this archbishop so openly and blatantly support
protecting priests accused of pedophilia and yet turns his back on equality for
all is all the sign I need that the modern catholic church is no place for
me."
"I am Catholic, and will be getting married in a
Catholic church this summer. I've tried to look at this issue from all angles,
but in no way can I figure out how legalized same-sex marriages would in any
way affect my wedding or my marriage. I'm very much looking forward to my
marriage, and it's truly sad that old-fashioned, ignorant, bigoted (yes, I said
it) church leaders want to deny others this opportunity to other couples who
love one another."
"I have been a life-long Catholic and attended mass
regularly (even weekday mass) until last year. Why the change? The catholic
church is out of touch with it's flock - especially in America. The church has
yet to truly repent for covering up the sexual abuse of many children. Even the
recent changes in the mass have left me frustrated. On too many issues the
church is teaching fear, intolerance and hatred. They do not walk in the
footsteps of Jesus - who loved ALL OF US. I never thought I'd say it, but I
think I'm an ex catholic. There are a growing number of us ex Catholics and I
would think that might scare the Pope and all the Bishops. AND I won't be
raising my daughter Catholic. Another lost sheep Benedict."
"I am a practicing Catholic. The church should not be
working to further marginalize an already persecuted group. Ultimately, it will
be demonstrated that the church is on the wrong side of history and morality in
this issue. During its history, the church has condoned slavery, torture,
racial segregation; has turned a blind eye on the abuse of children; debated
whether women have souls; refused to bury victims of suicide; denied that the
earth revolves around the sun and punished those who believed it. The history
of the papacy is a history of abuse of political power saturated with sex
scandals."
"Just last week, a priest in our archdiocese was
convicted of criminal sexual misconduct. Despite having the same information as
the jury that convicted him, the archbishop assigned him to a parish 40 miles
away from his supervision. In an effort to promote passage of the
marriage amendment to the state's Constitution, Archbishop John Nienstedt wants
area Catholics to recite a special prayer during mass. In addition, the
archbishop responded to the courageous victim's concerns over the placement,
according to the trial testimony, with the hurtful words, "trust your
shepherds." Mass always begins with a penitential rite. I would
propose a prayer at the start of archdiocesan masses asking forgiveness for
these failings."
"It's interesting that Catholics who believe in gay
rights and abortion rights are denied communion (apparently because their
beliefs are not consistent with church doctrine). I wonder how many times a death penalty (also contrary to
church doctrine) advocate has been denied communion. Zero?"
"I don’t like that Archbishop John Nienstedt is
threatening to punish priests who openly disagree with him over a
constitutional amendment to define marriage as being between one man and one
woman. In a few weeks, I'll be 85. I'm a charter member of my church. I
raised four children, all of whom attended Catholic schools. I've been active and
engaged in my church all of my adult life. That the archbishop would
threaten the careers of priests who have devoted their lives to social justice
is unconscionable. If a fraction of this effort was put into weeding out
the priests who had abused young children, we wouldn't have had the huge
scandals and cover-ups or so many lives ruined by abuse. I know that in
speaking out about the archbishop's heavy-handed behavior, I risk alienating
friends and family. But I must speak out. This issue isn't a gay-rights issue
-- it's a human-rights issue."
Thursday, February 9, 2012
"Pro-Life" Cartoon
So, this cartoon keeps showing up on Facebook, typically posted by "pro-lifers." The cartoon, included below, shows a guy yelling at God, saying "If you are a loving and merciful god, why didn't you send someone to cure cancer, or true leaders to govern us? What's your problem God?" God replies "I did. You aborted them!" I think God's answer more likely would be: "I did, and you let them starve in famines, they died in your wars, you let them die because they didn't have adequate health insurance, you took away funding for their schools so they never had the opportunity to learn, you kicked them out of the house for being gay and they ended up living on the streets, you deported them from your country, you killed them in the electric chair, you locked them in prison instead of trying to help them overcome their issues (and on and on and on) . . . ."


Santorum Country. Not!
One of the local papers' headline yesterday (after Rick Santorum won the Republican caucus in my state) was "Santorum Country." Let's be clear: this is NOT Santorum Country. It may be that the right-wing activist types that show up at the Republican caucuses in this state are fans of Santorum, but that does NOT make this state "Santorum Country."
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